1. "The Moxons of Yorkshire" (M of Y) shows two brothers, Robert Moxon (c1470-c1538) and William Moxon (c1475-1541) with a father probably named William - page 17. However, on page 105, the father of Robert is shown as probably Ralph Moxon!
    If these two were brothers, then Richard, who is descended from Robert, and Tom, who is descended from William, would be 13th cousins. Since their Y-Lines are one digit different in each of three markers this relationship is most unlikely to be correct. Moxon Family Tree MX12 will now have to be redrawn as two separate trees.

  2. When we look closely at the tree on page 17 in M of Y, and read the text, it is apparent that some assumptions were made (based on the available facts)
    a Robert Moxon (c1470-c1538) of Rothwell and Lofthouse had a son William (born c1499 and buried 21-10-1552 in Rothwell
    b William had one son, James Moxon of Outwoodside (c1545-1620). Outwoodside is 2 miles north of Wakefield,and 3 miles south of Rothwell. Thus Richard's Y-Line is that of these basically Wakefield Moxons. Richard's Y-Line is only one digit different in one marker, from those of Don, John and Chris. Thus we can conclude that the Wakefield Moxons are very closely related to the Moxons of Ferry Fryston, Cawthorne and Stewkley.

  3. William Moxon (c1475-1541) made a will, in which he mentions three sons, Ralph, Thomas and John.
    Referring to Table 4 in M of Y (page 43), we can follow the descent down from Thomas through Henry (1545-?) to Henry baptised 16-12-1587. Judith Ayre (Member of Hull) researched John Moxon of Yarmouth's ancestors back to Hull, where the last named Henry moved. Thus Tom's Y-Line represents the early Hull Moxons and the Leeds Moxons. (I refer to Henry and his family as being the early Moxons in Hull. The later Moxons in Hull, which included the Bankers, who went into liquidation, are descended from the Pontefract Moxons).

  4. A surprising result is that of Fred. His ancestors originated in Silkstone, an adjacent parish to Cawthorne, and we had expected that his Y-Line would have been the same as John's. It is, however, one digit different in each of three markers, making them very distant relations. In fact Fred's Y-Line is nearer to Tom's, being different on one marker only.So it would appear that the Silkstone Moxons and the Leeds Moxons are fairly closely related.

  5. Chris's earliest known ancestor was John Muckson, who having married Joanna Gobley at Eaton Bray, in Bedfordshire, moved to Stewkley and baptised their first son on 4-11-1770. The big question is - by what route did John Muckson, or his ancestors, move from Yorkshire, being related to the Cawthorne Moxons?

  6. Don's earliest known ancestor was Samual Moxeson who married widow Lydia Walton on 12-11-1728 in Ferry Fryston. Where did he come from, being related to the Moxons of Cawthorne?

Discussion:

Thus we have two groups of Moxons, who share a Common Paternal Ancestor, perhaps over 1000 years ago.

  1. Those Moxons of Cawthorne and Wakefield with descendants in Stewkley and Ferry Fryston.
  2. Those Moxons of Silkstone and Leeds with descendants in Hull (early Hull Moxons) and Yarmouth.

Oxford Ancestors have also informed us that the Y-Lines of our six donors do not indicate that we are of Viking ancestry. Since we believe that our ancestors originated in Yorkshire, and not the North of England, Scotland, Scottish Islands, or Northern Ireland, it is unlikely that we are of Celtic origins. They say, "At present there are no validated tests to distinguish if people are of Celtic or, for example, Anglo-Saxon origin, although research is currently underway in this area."
One major consideration has not yet been mentioned. So far we have not been able to determine what proportion of the male caucasian population, either in England as a whole, or in Yorkshire, in particular, share the same, or very similar Y-Line as our six donors. We need this information, before considering if further tests are worth funding.